The president of the right-wing group spearheading Project 2025 raised the specter of violence Tuesday against those who refuse to capitulate to what he characterized as “the second American Revolution” ushered in by presumptive GOP nominee and would-be authoritarian Donald Trump.
Kevin Roberts, head of the Heritage Foundation, said in an appearance on “Real America’s Voice” that the coming “revolution” will “remain bloodless if the left allows it to be”—a thinly veiled threat against those who resist the far-right’s efforts to seize power.
Trump said in April that whether there is violence surrounding the 2024 presidential election “depends” on the “fairness” of the contest and the outcome.
Watch Roberts’ remarks:
https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1808507354310209711
“We are going to win. We’re in the process of taking this country back,” declared Roberts, who has said Project 2025 is “institutionalizing Trumpism” in preparation for a possible victory in November.
The thing that is upsetting about American fascism is not that it exists.
It’s the fact that everyone is debating it like an argument about what kind of chairs you want at a wedding.
It’s the same scenario that played our in 1930s Germany and the rise of Nazism … everyone kept arguing that it wouldn’t happen, it’s not like that, it isn’t that bad, they have good points, we can control it, we won’t let them go too far, everyone obeys the rule of law, we have morals …
… then we all had to literally break the entire world in order to fix the problem.
I couldn’t agree more, the parallel between Nazi Germany and current day America is undeniable
Wonder if the rest of the sane world will have to make a deal with the devil, just not with the Soviets but the Chinese.
Imagine the Reichstag flag picture with a Chinese flag on the White House. Except everyone is in NBC suits and knows we’ll go extinct in years.
The American empire is much larger than the territories Germany controlled.
If the US were to become fascist, it would likely influence South America, Western Europe, the Caribbean, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, and other regions to follow suit.
No empire is that powerful … as soon as you think you can control a group of people with violence and fear, you’ve taken the first step to losing control.
It might work at first and it may even go on for a while but it won’t last.
It’s not a Hollywood fantasy either … every empire in history started with great power and ended in destruction. It won’t be pretty and it won’t work out as some epic drama but it will end because people everywhere will never stand for it.
I’ve been gently pushing for the same message but at best hear people say “oh it’s just politics, and we have laws against all this so it will be years before anything can truely change”
Hitler’s power was solidified in a matter of months, whereby he threatened and/or had his political opposition killed. Then he came with the excuse “I don’t believe my people did this”
No one dared say any of it was against the laws, he was fully above the law and shielded anyone he felt worthy of the same, ofcourse he would have them dissappear when their use ran out…
“From barbarism to civilization requires a century; from civilization to barbarism needs but a day.”
Will Durant
Ouch 😬
It’s seeming like a tide of unthinkability bias is awashing the country. Maybe there’s a better word for the phenomenon where one just can’t contemplate what could be a really bad problem. Or if one can, ‘oh but [the grim outcome] is so far down the road…’
It’s funny how so many democracies seem to be repeating the same tale on a loop. I’ve been reading a lot about the fall of the roman Republic and the parallels are disturbing. A corrupt oligarchical senate/governmental-body and a political leader with influence and military might to take over the government who flouts the law to their own self interest. Of course ceaser was actually competent and trump is well… Trump. It’s just astonishing how our political institutions keep failing us and how the masses keep letting them due to pure exasperation. I have no idea how this sh*t keeps happening. And worst part is I don’t think there’s anything we can do to turn back. The will of the majority is actively undermined and too many are openly brainwashed to be reasoned with.
To me the cause is simple to understand … a society that allows any individual to attain unlimited and unrestrained wealth and power.
In a society where anyone is capable of attaining unlimited wealth and power, eventually you will end up with a small group of people or even just one or two individuals with all the power and control. That was the lesson that the creators of the game ‘Monopoly’ tried to teach. If you build a game where only one person can win by gaining so much wealth that they can buy everything, then everyone must lose in order for one to win.
It’s the same scenario and cause that corrupted the Roman Empire, the Greeks, the Byzantines, the Ottomans, the Persians, the Mughals, the Islamic Caliphates, the British … they all rose with great wealth that eventually became concentrated to ever smaller groups of people until there was so much wealth at the top and none at the bottom that the system failed and it was reset again and again and again. We are just living through another cycle of wealth being concentrated to smaller groups of people again.
The problem is not that we keep looking for a system or a government that can control people … it’s that every one of us believes that we can be capable of winning the entire game by making everyone else lose.
Place a wealth cap on society and then we might able to see more people around the world wanting to cooperate on a few things. And when I say wealth cap, I don’t mean a few thousand or even a million dollars … I mean a wealth cap of $10 million dollars … anyone who has control to more than that is either taxed fully or not allowed to participate in business. No billionaires, no muti level millionaires. It would automatically spread wealth to so many people everywhere. It wouldn’t cause a utopia either, we’ll probably still have the same problems as before but there would be many more people with the resources, ability and finances to be able to do something about everything.
Scheppele’s assessment echoed that of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, which warned in an analysis published late last year that “the entire project is devoted to aggrandizing executive power by centralizing authority in the presidency, and a key aspect of democratic backsliding is viewing opposition elements as attempting to destroy the ‘real’ community, an essential aspect to quashing dissent.”
“Project 2025 paints progressives and liberals as outside acceptable politics, and not just ideological opponents, but inherently anti-American and ‘replacing American values,’” the analysis said. “Targeting vulnerable communities is a core tenet of Project 2025. Project 2025 is very clearly on a path to Christian nationalism as well as authoritarianism.”
For the love of everything we care for. Please vote this November.
But I’m just so undecided. I mean, yeah, that sounds bad, really bad, but Biden is old and had one bad performance. Forget all the other recent events where he did well, I’m only able to focus on that one bad one. /s
We will let the record show how clever you were compared to the undecided voters as you all go in the same burning pit.
Since you correctly dont care who the democrat candidate is, could we perhaps pic a candidate that will survive the term? Orb are you going to change the centrists minds by being very smug on the internet? We all know how effective that is.
Orb are you going to
Subliminal message received. Marianne has my vote.
PRAISE THE ORB.
Trent Reznor was ahead of his time in many ways.
2025 for year zero, anyone?
The Heritage Foundation existed for a very long time, and many far-right evangelicals wanted to take over the US. They played a long game. They even sunk 1 billion dollars into the whole project, and needed to learn from some other countries like Hungary and Russia. At least the HF has a lot of ties to the Orbán regime of Hungary, our only luck is it’s on slow burn thanks to the EU.
It’s far too late to vote our way out of this, Trump will be president next year because the Democrats would rather lose an election than a fundraising opportunity.
Start preparing for the inevitable. If you and your friend circle aren’t ready to engage in mass civil unrest like the French do whenever their government acts up then it’s time to get that way. Form an affinity group, practice acting in concert while in black bloc, study police tactics, surveil the local fascist agitators, join a worker’s union, identify opportunities to disrupt business-as-usual, and most importantly, do not organize online.
People like you are the problem. You’re just spewing nonsense. This is ABSOLUTELY the time to vote.
Op is not saying don’t vote. They are saying sway voters have been swayed.
