• BertramDitore@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Yup. Show me a billionaire who has paid their workers fairly from day one, followed every single law and regulation by the book, never spent a single dollar on lobbying Congress or contributing to political campaigns for quid pro quos, and never used underpaid contractors or foreign slave labor. You can’t, because there’s no such thing as a good billionaire.

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      3 months ago

      And even then, if they managed to amass that kind of wealth, it had to come from somewhere, i.e. consumers paying enough for their product that it made them a billionaire, meaning all these people found have paid less and that billionaire could be a millionaire or just middle class and more people would be richer.

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        3 months ago

        While he certainly comes across as one of the more virtuous billionaires, his company Berkshire Hathaway, has massive investments in some of the worst and most damaging industries in the world, in terms of labor exploitation and ongoing contributions to the climate disaster. For example, his company owns 6.6% of Chevron and 27.2% of Occidental Petroleum, two massive exploiters of fossil fuels. That’s no good in my book.

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        Nope. That amount of wealth is only generated via exploitation. Exploiting workers or exploiting customers, or cutting corners and skirting regulations, failing to internalize externalities. Mostly all of the above

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            3 months ago

            I love how swifties always say, “WhAt AbOuT tAyLoR?!”

            And I say this as someone who loves her music.

            She’s still a bad billionaire.

            EVEN IF she paid everyone who works for her or her label above market rate, even if she charged her concert tickets below market value, even if she “goes green” with every CD, every piece of merchandise, the fact that she has more money than most people makes her a bad billionaire.

            She could easily give half of her wealth away and still be okay.

            She’s a bad billionaire.

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            Unless her financials are public, it’ll be hard to do but the general principle is that everyone’s labour is worth the same.

            She’s able to get more money through manipulation, whether intending to or not, through her fans buying multiples of her merchandise, to playing her songs on Spotify non stop to boost her profits etc.

            Applying this principle, she’s gaining profit from the work of her fans who aren’t getting any compensation for their labour, resulting in millions of dollars.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    Any individual that wants to horde so much money and wealth that could satisfy the lives of millions of people is not a good person.

    It’s like having a million sandwiches and thousands of hungry people around you … but you’d rather keep all your sandwiches and screw everyone else, even though you will never be able to physically eat all the sandwiches you have in a lifetime.

    Being a billionaire is not a sign of intelligence, it’s a mental disorder and a person who lacks human empathy.

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      3 months ago

      Modern age dragons, sitting on their hoards while occasionally burning a peasant village to keep those dirty plebs in line.

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      A billion dollars distributed to 1,000,000 people is $1000.

      All the wealth billionaires in the US hold is not enough to pay for the government to run for one year.

      Let’s not pretend giving away all their wealth would fix all of our problems.

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        3 months ago

        What makes more sense in a society? One person who controls a billion dollars or a thousand people with million dollars?

        The billionaire locks up all that wealth and it doesn’t do anything for anyone … sure it might make someone even more money but it essentially locks away that potential wealth from a larger group of people.

        If you had 1,000 millionaires, then they would all go out to perform all kinds of other activities and businesses that would be smaller but at least benefit even more people.

        Driving wealth to smaller and smaller groups of people only drives more and more wealth to fewer people while everyone else suffers.

        Redistributing millions or billions of dollars might not change much … but at the very least it would be a hell of a lot better than what we have now.

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          The billionaires have their wealth in businesses, it’s not locked up. People don’t just put a billion in a savings account

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    General strike is the best and most effective means we have. If we wait for AI and robots to replace you, you loose your bargaining power.

    Crash the fake economy. Your fucked either way might as well go down swinging and on your terms.

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    3 months ago

    A million seconds is 11.5 days. A billion seconds is 31.7 years.

    Just a good way to ground an unimaginable number in something more familiar and drive home how ridiculous having a billion dollars is. I hear we’re on track for our first batch of trillionaires this decade.

    A trillion seconds is 31,688 years.

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      I hear we’re on track for our first batch of trillionaires this decade.

      Unless we do something about the wealth, this is kinda expected eventually. Give it another decade after that and it would be wholly expected to have our first multi trillionaire, and honestly they wouldn’t even need to do anything to make that happen, they’d just need to invest in a board market ETF.

      I’m not saying this is good, but this was inevitable due to how the markets and inflation work.

      Edit: Also it will probably happen sooner than anyone realizes when you take into account private unmeasurable wealth like Saudi royalty.

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      I’d argue they’re “less worse” but the fact remains that no one becomes a billionaire without exploitation. Bill Gates owned a monopoly and I’m honestly not sure what Mark Cuban did. At some point and time you must exploit a system and it’s people to amass that much wealth.