That changes my perspective on them a lot. Well, another lesson taken - don’t jump too quickly onto conclusions.

Pure perfection, I love this meme with every bit of my soul

True, hood point. I remember to have read a study according to which a disproportionate amount of people at the top (aka CEOs) display narcissistic behavioral traits - so it can make sense to suspect the same applies to other personality disorders. It just feels ahhh to me - that these people dont utilize their talents and itelligence to improve the world, but to build up ways to monetize every last bit of your time. Like come on :/

Am I the only one who gets the feeling that this is kinda dystopic? Like come on, this just gets crazy. It amazes me that some people think this is an ethically acceptable way to earn money.

Ahhhh, that makes sense! Thank you, I got very confused - you clarified it a lot :)

Sorry, that’s now how I meant my original post - I just thought that I really like SPD already and was interested in what PD makes better/ what features SPD missed. I in no way wanted to say that PD was bad, just was excited to know what PD made better :)

SPD is already pretty good though, why is PD better?

Do the Fossify versions already have new features? I’ll still using Simple Mobile Tools from F-Droid, without ads, and am asking if it makes sense to download Fossify apps already

The urge to comment “I use Arch btw” is overwhelming

Yeee, I use the F-Droid version, so they’re clean.

Still a shame though…

RIP Simple mobile apps. You were amazing while you lasted.

Hmmm, I’m just not sure - what qualifies as an active part? I think what for me matters is if your action has signicifact influence. Would you change the situation if you would’ve acted otherwise? I think for these day-to-day cases, I think it is a strong claim to make that “if you wouldn’t have used these apps, the situation for the delivery drivers would be different”. It is different for influences - both in the social media realm and people with money/power, whose actions - or non-actions - actually can change the situation of the workers. But if your action - or non-action - won’t change the situation, then how can one claim that one is actively making it worse?

I think you raise a good point, I agree. Especially that the problem is very systematic.

Okay, makes sense - I fully agree. Just wanted to clarify :)

I dont think so, that isn’t necessarily the case. I think people in capitalist economies can also contribute out of their own free will, because they have fun with the project. To put it so that they only do it not to starve is, in my opinion, too harsh. I do lots of things in this economy because I have fun with them, not because I dont want to starve. However, I think that of course the aspect “I need food” is always a factor and an influence. Just very often not the only one.

True, I probably agree. I’ve thought about it as well. I think it is just important for me to clarify that using the app isn’t bad in itself, but I agree with you - if you don’t tip someone who depends on it, you dont oppose the exploitation of the workers and actively profit from it.

I disagree. By ordering via these apps, you contribute to the people who exploit the drivers, but you don’t make the decision to exploit them. It is a very big difference, in my opinion, because by ordering you don’t decide the drivers should be exploited. It is the decision of the CEOs to do it, and while you of course have a part in it, I think it is a strong claim to say that OP is actively making it worse.

But didn’t they had the issue with supporting MQA, which kinda was a scam? As far as I know they now switched to FLAC, but it still feels a bit weird.

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